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I am officially dead and this is my spectre come back from the grave to...uhhh...meander around doing random shit.
So! To business. Around January/February/March Dayadhvam_Triad (hereafter referred to as D_T, as the whole name is far too much effort to type out--Eliot was such a drama queen) got into D.Gray-man, and I promptly hijacked her post fangirling about it. I'm rereading it, because I'm easily distractedand because I'm still working on a couple responses to those threads. It's too much goddamn effort to keep it all in the indenting LJ format where eventually the sentence is like
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and of course that's lame, so. My original intent for this account (as I had no idea what had come into my head to make me apply for an account on yet another website I had no interest in at the time) was archiving fandom babble, and in D_T I found a comrade in the joys of geeking, so.
...I end far too many sentences with the word "so."
Apparently I have actually breached the LJ journal entry limit. Um, wow?...
(this thing has randomly indented because it obviously hates me.YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE SUBTLER THAN THAT, YOU PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE BITCH.)
So! To business. Around January/February/March Dayadhvam_Triad (hereafter referred to as D_T, as the whole name is far too much effort to type out--Eliot was such a drama queen) got into D.Gray-man, and I promptly hijacked her post fangirling about it. I'm rereading it, because I'm easily distracted
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and of course that's lame, so. My original intent for this account (as I had no idea what had come into my head to make me apply for an account on yet another website I had no interest in at the time) was archiving fandom babble, and in D_T I found a comrade in the joys of geeking, so.
...I end far too many sentences with the word "so."
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dayadhvam_triad 02.02.08 Life as is...
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[...] Also, I started reading through the D.Gray-man manga... I'm already halfway through now. *sheepish*
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kohikari 02.03.08
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Over holiday break, D.Gray devoured my soul.
Because it's adorable like that. ♥
I dunno about which half is better and which is worse (...wait, there are halves? o.o), but I have to agree that the anime is not as good as the manga (and I have a grudge against whoever made that awful choice for Allen's seiyuu).
*kills all essay assignments*
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d_t 02.03.08
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dayadhvam_triad 02.02.08 Life as is...
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[...] Also, I started reading through the D.Gray-man manga... I'm already halfway through now. *sheepish*
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kohikari 02.03.08
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Over holiday break, D.Gray devoured my soul.
Because it's adorable like that. ♥
I dunno about which half is better and which is worse (...wait, there are halves? o.o), but I have to agree that the anime is not as good as the manga (and I have a grudge against whoever made that awful choice for Allen's seiyuu).
*kills all essay assignments*
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d_t 02.03.08
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I'm not sure if there's really a proper place to divide it in half--I guess speaking in chapter number terms. :P Allen's voice... is surprisingly, uh, feminine. >_>
But D.Gray-man is pretty awesome, although I'm not big on the fight scenes (but I'm never big on fight scenes XP). It is so adorable, especially the characters. :D
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kohikari 02.03.08
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I don't think there are any obvious division points--there's a pause after the pilot chapter, and maybe right before and after Allen troops off with Bitchyface for his maiden voyage mission, and traveling all the way across the Eurasian continent must have taken some time--but there's no real timeskip, you know? Naruto has it easy. Two-hundred-something chapters of twelve/thirteen-year-olds running around with knives and setting shit on fire, then BAM! They're, like, fifteen, and angsty. D.Gray-man doesn't even pause for breath. ~145 chapters and running with it.
(Ack, I've had too much chocolate and I'm babbling againnn T_T)
I am ANGRYFACE about how docile and feminine that seiyuu makes his voice. Edward Elric, Uzumaki Naruto, the list goes on for decent young shounen protagonists portrayed well by female voice actors. I recognize that Allen's character was originally female in the ZONE manga, but that was that and this is D.Gray-man. Allen Walker is not a very girly character. The producers probably had a really low budget and didn't want to make their hero sound like a thirty-year-old man(coughUchihaSasukecough), but... *flail* Ah, it doesn't really matter in the long run anyway.
I love the characters with all. My. Heart. And. Soul. Allen is too adorable, Road is made of awesome, Bitchyface (Kanda) is hilarious, and Tyki's wonderfully ambiguous as a villain half the time. And that's just the tip of the iceberg~ ♥ Which characters/plot elements/etc. are your favorite(s)?
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d_t 02.03.08
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Yeah, the seiyuu's too... light and high for a boy.LOL Uchiha Sasuke
*_* Eeeh, the characters! I think Allen is indeed too adorable :D, and Kanda is just so surly I can't help but like him (although have there been any hints about the "someone" he's looking for and the lotus/tattoo thing?)--also, Lavi is THE WIN. Especially in that Ch. 114-something range where we got a look at the Bookman and past!Lavi stuff, and it was just like Gah. And Tyki--he acts like such a gentleman at times, and I have to confess at least part of my liking for him is based on the expressions the mangaka gives him--the faintly quizzical, the amused, but nothing like HUR HUR HUR I'M EVIL AND GOING TO KILL YOU (because that's cliched XP... well, until what happened to him recently ;_;). And Road is really cool--she acts so childish and capricious and heehee. :D And Bak and Fou and even Chomesuke, and Komui as well. :D For some reason I'm not too big on Lenalee/Linalee/however-you-translate-he
*has spent too much time looking for D.Gray-man icons >_>*
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kohikari 02.04.08
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Why of course I'm twelve, we ninja just have hormone-laden vegetables and beef that make our voices break early...really, it's perfectly normal for a little snot-nosed tweener to have a baritone...
I don't know if there've been any hints about "that person", but in the...I think it was the first Reverse novel? The Witch of something-or-other...lemme check.
The Exorcists Order comm (http://community.livejournal.com/exorc
(I love how Kanda's got such a filthy mouth. Swears like a drunken sailor, he does. x3)
Lavi is an awesome character, I agree. (Tell me, what do you think of the requisite ambiguous shounen manga pairings? I'm pretty sure Lavi's head over heels for Lenalee, and she's just as bad for Allen, and Allen...uh...I don't think he feels quite as much for Lenalee, but it's certainly not very platonic so. Kanda's one and only is obviously Mugen, of course. *perfectly straight-faced, really* There's something in how our Token Female Protagonist looks at her brother in the hospital later on that pings my cracky shipper sense, but it might be a false alarm... And of course I think RoadxAllen (she tops, hands down) is the best crack pairing EVER. Because she's hilarious when she randomly jumps him and gets all sadistic and creepy and makes Lavi Assume Untoward Things.) Oh, I'm so good at digressing. So, Lavi=win. I love the concept of Bookmen. Sometimes I wish I could see the original three manga that prompted the series--BOOK-MAN, ZONE, continue. It's so shinyyy~
(Ah crap, I'm being longwinded again. ^^; Sorry for spamming you so much!)
I was total sadface when Chomesuke died. And Miranda, yes, she's awesome. I love her random alcohol problem. XD Hoshino-sensei did a good job with that character. She did a great job with Lenalee too, it's just that she suffers the Shounen Manga Syndrome--it's aimed toward boys, the strongest/most well-developed characters tend to be male, and there must be a token girlfriend/damsel-in-distress/etc. character to fill a place. Hoshino-sensei is good at poking fun at the cliches and tropes of the genre, and I have to say Lenalee sticks stronger with me than most shounen heroines, but...it's like we've seen it all before, yeah? Miranda's more original, and maybe a little more compelling because of it.
Teh Official Romanizations are chock-full of Engrish, but that's okay because D.Gray-man is made of cracky love and win anyways. Froi Tiedoll, Lenalee Lee, Reever Wenhamm, Jeryy (yes, one 'r' and two 'y's), Miranda Lotto, Baron Arystar Krory III, Lavi, Daisya Barry, Noise Marie, Hevlaska, etc. etc. etc. Half of them are randomly named after brands of silver accessories--Timcanpy, Winters Zocalo, Cloud9...
Allen's whole 'awakening' bit--when he reassimilated Crown Clown--struck a weirdly deep chord in me. A protagonist who lives and fights for his enemies, horrible monsters and such? One hand for the Akuma, and the other for the humans, his nakama. So much love in his heart, like Jesus, except with no scary fundies preaching in train stations. It just added so much to his character, and cemented the chain of fantardedness around my neck. Eeeee ambiguity~ ♥ ♥ ♥ I can feel that this manga has a long way to go, and I'd like to be there along with it~ Especially considering how Kishimoto-sensei's magic mushroom habit is turning me off Naruto a little recently...
*is really very sorry for wasting your time with rambleage*
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Yay! Let us continue merrily on this D.Gray-man fangirling road. :D
(LOL it’s sort of amusing how we have to draft out our responses because there’s so much to talk about. :P)
Whee, D.Gray-man report! I look forward to it. :DDD
Oh, I didn’t see that part in the anime—but they changed it to that? Road’s action of stabbing him in the eye is so much more hardcore and significant emotions-wise than if she was randomly directing candles at him and one hit him in the eye by chance (of course it was by chance…). It’s a little irritating that the animators feel the need to change those kinds of things because they’re “too violent” or stuff like that. It’s a shounen manga, what would you think they’d have? No, you’re not being an elitist/purist (at least I think so), it’d be so much more dramatic if she’d oh-so-calmly stabbed him.
I think Lenalee returned Anita-san’s hair ornaments to her before they left the ship, didn’t they? My memory is spotty, though, so I’m not sure.
I still await the moment in which Kanda’s turned into a propeller blade. Around and around he goes… I suspect that there might be (gasp!) sentimental value behind his hair, because pragmatically it doesn’t make sense. Wait—well, a lot of uniform/hair/etc. choices don’t make sense. So that doesn’t affect anything. XP
Really? I liked Lavi from the beginning—he seemed so amusingly nonchalant and the like. And then Road’s mind-fuck arc came along and young!Lavi was so adorable~ :D Speaking of which, who is your favorite character? (and favorite pairing? If you have one, that is XD)
o_O Old catgirls… *shudders*
… Wow. I think it must say something about Hoshino’s ability to make good stuff out of those tropes that I hadn’t actually noticed the parodying of said tropes until you just pointed it out. XD Cartoonish supervillains--Oh, Earl, you are such a strange entity. He makes me think of a bloated, disfigured rabbit for some reason. XP
You saw the latest Naruto chapters? Kishimoto continues merrily along the garden path to even more wtf. :P
Naruto and Allen—they’re just so willing to help and love others, even those who aren’t their friends (Naruto and the villagers who are a little wary of him, Allen and the Akuma)—unless those people have hurt them and their friends (“precious” is the important word!). Then—omg, watch out! The mother lion pounces with claws extended! (… don’t ask where that metaphor came from. I have no idea. XD) But anyway, I suppose that could be why—there’s a wonderful aspect of magnanimity to their personalities.
Oh, I hope Tyki gets his personality back too. He was such an interesting villain—but now that he’s been turned into Mindless Fighting Strange-Looking Minion, it takes so much out of the oomph of the manga. It’s interesting and complex villains that make up so much of the awesomeness of the conflict.
Kabutorochi and Itachicaust, LOL
I don’t think Bak and Reever are deaddenial!, because then their deaths would seem too… ignominious, I guess. And for the reasons you listed, too. :D
*offers bandages*
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- - *headdesks* That revision completely changes the meaning of what was shouted. :/
- - With Anita's hair ornaments: I think she lost one while fighting the Akuma, and the one she had in her hand, like you said, was the other one when she came back to the ship. Then she put it in Anita's hair, as told to--so I think both are in the water. Somewhere. :( So I guess Lenalee doesn't have the hair ornaments anymore.
- - he cheats like a pro at poker
- - Oh god, that part made me laugh when I was reading the manga. XD Just--and it's just so, so hilarious. XD Allen is adorable, he really is. His motivation to fight for both humans and the Akuma~ ♥ :D Kanda cracks me up; it'll be interesting to see what his backstory is like. The tattoo + lotus = ??? And XDDD Road as a transvestite--true, I can definitely see that. :P The characters are just all so, so awesome.
- - Oh, pairings. =_= The requisite RYFG pairing Kanda/Allen. XD Lavi/Lenalee--have you seen the latest manga chapters? I feel like there might be something--or it could just be I'm reading too much into it, and it's Lavi being worried (platonic!) over Lenalee and what she's doing.
- - Tyki/Lavi is called the "Lucky" pairing? *blinks* I didn't know that, hmm. Kanda/Lenalee--they have a such an awww sibling-ish relationship, I can see Allen/Lenalee and Lavi/Lenalee more than it. Although I have read good stuff with that ship.
- -I really feel for the suffering assistant--I mean, the cat headbands! WHUT. I weep for the sheer brilliance of Naruto Part I. ;_;
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- - It wasn't spoken aloud, it was written on the wall in (Miranda's) blood where the clock used to be.
- - *gasp* The Mysterious Case of the Missing Hair Ornaments is solved!*read too much Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys when she was little* *what does it say about me that I preferred the Hardy Boys over the Nancy Drew novels, and all my favorite anime and manga are shounen and seinen?* I wonder if later on in the series Lenalee will have an angsty/nostalgic flashback to how Anita told her to keep her hair long and not lose it to the war...
- - Allen's "Black" Side is hilarious. It's the only time I can picture him with the creepy Noah!smile, all dark and evil and about to cheat you out of your trousers... With Kanda, canonically we know that the lotus is suspended in water/fluid/whatever, in an hourglass? and there are thirteen petals left at some point in the manga? and with each petal that falls, some of Kanda's lifeexpectancy energy power whatever is taken away. And he heals inhumanly quickly, like probably around Naruto's speed. And the tattoo is definitely connected, when he does the Sangenshiki thing with the Sharingan-mocking three dots in the eyes and pulls life energy-whatever directly from himself and the tattoo gets a broader spread --> re:the fight with Skinn.
- - Road I first thought was a sadistic little boy in a dress. And I blinked and then I thought, okay, whatever, because this is Japanese manga and it's nothing I haven't seen before. And then after the whole arc is through and the third tankoubon is drawing to a close, in the author-talk page Hoshino-sensei says Road's female, and I was like ...what? And I had to reread it all again from that more different lens. XP Jasdebi I thought were male, until Lero called them "-tama" which was noted by the translator as somewhat equating "young lady" or something, and I blinked and was confused for a bit and then decided that that explained why their jeans are so...erm...wait a minute, I don't think jeans were invented until the 20th century! *fume* And someone somewhere said zippers weren't invented until later as well, and Allen's latest uniform is practically nothing but... ...What was I talking about? Oh yeah, so then I thought Jasdebi were female, and I still think so because goddammit their combined form was clearly wearing a dress. @_@;;;
- - Eeeee unique/engaging characters~ *totally in love with this canon*
- - Kanda/Allen for me is a little "eh", it's not as blatantly implausible as Harry/Draco but it's still not as deadpan obvious as Naruto/Sasuke... I was shocked originally at the popularity of the Lavi/Kanda ship in Japan; they have practically no onscreen interaction (despite their obvious history, and that Lavi's the only one besides Tiedoll to call him "Yuu") and when they do it's with or about Allen. *squashes moar crack!threesome theories* But recently in the manga, my LaviLena shipping bone has been twinging like a hurricane's a'coming. Admittedly, it could be taken as platonic, buuut... XD Yeah no.
- - Yup, Lavi + Tyki = "Lucky," apparently. There's "Yullen," too. No cutesy nicknames for other ships that I can remember. I'd peg Kanda as brotherly to Lenalee too--it's just that Komui kind of has that market cornered, y'know? So I figure entirely platonic brotherish friend. (There was this one KandaLenalee fanfic that was based off of J.D.Robb's _ in Death series (which is actually pretty good, despite its roots in the trash novel business), and it wasn't bad. It hasn't been updated in a while, but I story-alerted it...)
- -I can handle 307-309, I can handle 347, I can handle 366, hell, I can handle 386 but the ninjacatgirls? are pushing it. >.<;;;
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- - http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3369736/1/T
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- - Oh god. My first exposure to Naruto was the English version, precisely during the Wave Arc, when my friend and I were surfing through channels. Needless to say, I was like, "What's with all these flashbacks? They totally ruin the tension of the show!" And I went on, unaware of how it would later drag me into fandom. :P
- - LOL That always happens with the bitchy!trigger-happy!pretty boy characters, it seems. =_= And maybe it's also because he's featured more in the anime fillers, but probably it's mainly his appearance and "mysterious aura." *snicker*
- - Hermaphrodites work. XD
- - And thanks for the link! ♥ AU :D, it'll be interesting to see the author's spin on things.
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But D.Gray-man is pretty awesome, although I'm not big on the fight scenes (but I'm never big on fight scenes XP). It is so adorable, especially the characters. :D
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kohikari 02.03.08
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I don't think there are any obvious division points--there's a pause after the pilot chapter, and maybe right before and after Allen troops off with Bitchyface for his maiden voyage mission, and traveling all the way across the Eurasian continent must have taken some time--but there's no real timeskip, you know? Naruto has it easy. Two-hundred-something chapters of twelve/thirteen-year-olds running around with knives and setting shit on fire, then BAM! They're, like, fifteen, and angsty. D.Gray-man doesn't even pause for breath. ~145 chapters and running with it.
(Ack, I've had too much chocolate and I'm babbling againnn T_T)
I am ANGRYFACE about how docile and feminine that seiyuu makes his voice. Edward Elric, Uzumaki Naruto, the list goes on for decent young shounen protagonists portrayed well by female voice actors. I recognize that Allen's character was originally female in the ZONE manga, but that was that and this is D.Gray-man. Allen Walker is not a very girly character. The producers probably had a really low budget and didn't want to make their hero sound like a thirty-year-old man
I love the characters with all. My. Heart. And. Soul. Allen is too adorable, Road is made of awesome, Bitchyface (Kanda) is hilarious, and Tyki's wonderfully ambiguous as a villain half the time. And that's just the tip of the iceberg~ ♥ Which characters/plot elements/etc. are your favorite(s)?
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d_t 02.03.08
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Yeah, the seiyuu's too... light and high for a boy.
*_* Eeeh, the characters! I think Allen is indeed too adorable :D, and Kanda is just so surly I can't help but like him (although have there been any hints about the "someone" he's looking for and the lotus/tattoo thing?)--also, Lavi is THE WIN. Especially in that Ch. 114-something range where we got a look at the Bookman and past!Lavi stuff, and it was just like Gah. And Tyki--he acts like such a gentleman at times, and I have to confess at least part of my liking for him is based on the expressions the mangaka gives him--the faintly quizzical, the amused, but nothing like HUR HUR HUR I'M EVIL AND GOING TO KILL YOU (because that's cliched XP... well, until what happened to him recently ;_;). And Road is really cool--she acts so childish and capricious and heehee. :D And Bak and Fou and even Chomesuke, and Komui as well. :D For some reason I'm not too big on Lenalee/Linalee/however-you-translate-he
*has spent too much time looking for D.Gray-man icons >_>*
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kohikari 02.04.08
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I don't know if there've been any hints about "that person", but in the...I think it was the first Reverse novel? The Witch of something-or-other...lemme check.
The Exorcists Order comm (http://community.livejournal.com/exorc
(I love how Kanda's got such a filthy mouth. Swears like a drunken sailor, he does. x3)
Lavi is an awesome character, I agree. (Tell me, what do you think of the requisite ambiguous shounen manga pairings? I'm pretty sure Lavi's head over heels for Lenalee, and she's just as bad for Allen, and Allen...uh...I don't think he feels quite as much for Lenalee, but it's certainly not very platonic so. Kanda's one and only is obviously Mugen, of course. *perfectly straight-faced, really* There's something in how our Token Female Protagonist looks at her brother in the hospital later on that pings my cracky shipper sense, but it might be a false alarm... And of course I think RoadxAllen (she tops, hands down) is the best crack pairing EVER. Because she's hilarious when she randomly jumps him and gets all sadistic and creepy and makes Lavi Assume Untoward Things.) Oh, I'm so good at digressing. So, Lavi=win. I love the concept of Bookmen. Sometimes I wish I could see the original three manga that prompted the series--BOOK-MAN, ZONE, continue. It's so shinyyy~
(Ah crap, I'm being longwinded again. ^^; Sorry for spamming you so much!)
I was total sadface when Chomesuke died. And Miranda, yes, she's awesome. I love her random alcohol problem. XD Hoshino-sensei did a good job with that character. She did a great job with Lenalee too, it's just that she suffers the Shounen Manga Syndrome--it's aimed toward boys, the strongest/most well-developed characters tend to be male, and there must be a token girlfriend/damsel-in-distress/etc. character to fill a place. Hoshino-sensei is good at poking fun at the cliches and tropes of the genre, and I have to say Lenalee sticks stronger with me than most shounen heroines, but...it's like we've seen it all before, yeah? Miranda's more original, and maybe a little more compelling because of it.
Teh Official Romanizations are chock-full of Engrish, but that's okay because D.Gray-man is made of cracky love and win anyways. Froi Tiedoll, Lenalee Lee, Reever Wenhamm, Jeryy (yes, one 'r' and two 'y's), Miranda Lotto, Baron Arystar Krory III, Lavi, Daisya Barry, Noise Marie, Hevlaska, etc. etc. etc. Half of them are randomly named after brands of silver accessories--Timcanpy, Winters Zocalo, Cloud9...
Allen's whole 'awakening' bit--when he reassimilated Crown Clown--struck a weirdly deep chord in me. A protagonist who lives and fights for his enemies, horrible monsters and such? One hand for the Akuma, and the other for the humans, his nakama. So much love in his heart, like Jesus, except with no scary fundies preaching in train stations. It just added so much to his character, and cemented the chain of fantardedness around my neck. Eeeee ambiguity~ ♥ ♥ ♥ I can feel that this manga has a long way to go, and I'd like to be there along with it~ Especially considering how Kishimoto-sensei's magic mushroom habit is turning me off Naruto a little recently...
*is really very sorry for wasting your time with rambleage*
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d_t 02.04.08
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Oh, I didn't know they had those novels! *bookmarks the link* Thanks! :)
Tell me, what do you think of the requisite ambiguous shounen manga pairings?
LOL I agree with you, pretty much. Lavi may like Lenalee, but not as much as Lenalee likes Allen (that's too obvious to me, at least :P). And XP, Road/Allen--that part when she jumped on him, that was just made of the win--so hilarious. >_>Also, I was sort-of-not-really liking Lavi/Chomesuke the short time it/she appeared in the story. *is shot* XP :D Kanda/Mugen = OTP. *grins*
it's just that she suffers the Shounen Manga Syndrome--it's aimed toward boys, the strongest/most well-developed characters tend to be male, and there must be a token girlfriend/damsel-in-distress/etc. character to fill a place
:D Good point there. I dunno--I definitely recognize Lenalee's a very strong character, like when she fought the Akuma over the sea, but then there's the part in the Ark where Noah's trapped her and Chaoji in the cubes, and she keeps saying, "Allen-kun!" over and over again, and... :/ It's unfortunate that there must be the token girlfriend like this, I think I'd like Lenalee lots and lots more if the Shounen Manga Syndrome wasn't so prevalent and I hadn't seen it so many times before. *sighs*
Jeryy? Seriously? I saw it spelled as Jerry all the time. Haha, the romanizations are absolutely nutty. XP
*snort* Naruto is really, really strange lately. I'm hoping that Kishi will stop his mushroom habit soon and clear things up (oh why did I discover Naruto so late, after Part I ended? ;_; Part I was just awesome). But yep, there's so much potential in D.Gray-man as it is now (still wants to know more about Lavi's past, and Kanda, and Mana Walker, and Allen's Crown Clown, and asdfjkl;asdfjkl; toooooo much)! Don't apologize, you aren't rambling at all! You make more sense than I ever would, and why shouldn't we squee over D.Gray-man? :D--there's so much that could happen, and I really hope it keeps going as well as it has. :D
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kohikari 02.04.08
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You're giving me an excuse to fangirl. WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS I DON'T NEED ENCOURAGEMENT (i love you for it buuut--) *dies in Humanities 4 essay tsunami*
(I typed that last post at 1 AM...you can see my sanity and coherency slowly disintegrating as the post rambles on... XD;; I'm going to bed now, that should fix the zombie factor.)
A while back I made a note of the most relevant/efficient/promptly updated D.Gray fancomms; apart from Exorcists Order, which is for news and discussion, there's ummm (crap, I don't have my bookmarks with me because my laptop fried over the weekend and this is a more different one) I think dgrayman and d_grayman (or was it dgray_man? Or d_gray_man...oh well, just try permutations of that, and the comm with the bad KandaxAllen fanart for a bg is sort of this fandom's equivalent of Chuunin. Fanart, fanfic, fsts, icons, rpgs, blogcrews, discussions, etc. Also, I think there's a dgrayicons comm or something? the Chuunin-esque people should have links to that...)
Also, the archive for D.Gray on ff.n is sooo adorable. Like, there are actual good writers, and some cutely bad writers, and some newbie fantards, and it's so cute~ *hugs tiny fandom* I've done a statistics report for it, but I'm not sure if it's large enough to be relevant enough to post... (KandaAllen=v.popular, and some random Lenalee pairings, and then you throw Lavi in the mix and some fans break out the cracky threesomes...oh, fandom, you're so special~ ♥ There's pretty decent gen, too! Try Mana and Cross by um whatever her name is, and Bookman by Dhampir[insert two-digit number here].)
Chomesuke/Lavi --> crack OTP FTW Also, did you notice how Hoshino-sensei takes the pretty-boy trope and runs all over Hell's half-acre with it? Every time Kanda gets in a serious fight, he randomly loses his shirt, his hair falls out of the ponytail, and there's lots of injured!fanservice. XDDD
I like how Lenalee keeps fighting to protect her precious people, even when she's stripped of her weapon and strength. She's got a very strong spirit, especially considering that she was formerly suicidal...such drive is admirable, coming from a place like that. (On a more superficial note, I like how she lost her hair--the stereotype across genres and across cultures tends to be that "super-feminine" girls have long pretty hair and "super-masculine" girls have short short hair; Lenalee went from one end of the spectrum to the other, and retains her mix of femininity and fiery spirit. Also, for someone active like a fighter, short hair is OVER 9000 times more practical. *thinks too much*)
Hoshino-sensei's on the goooood crack. Like the stuff Kishimoto-sensei used to be on, before he went off the deep end and the series jumped the kisame and random ninja catgirls started happening(WHY CATGIRLS WHYYY).
I think D.Gray-man is one of the most underappreciated shounen manga right now, in a market that's obsessing over Naruto and Bleach and One Piece and Yu-Gi-Oh! and all the rest. I mean, not that those series don't have their own merit--certified Narutard speaking here, as well as a Bleach fan and former (recovered) closet YGO rabidfan--but there's just something about D.Gray-man that seems like it's missing in a lot of other, more popular manga. Like what the main character cares about. Naruto cares about Sasuke, and bringing him home, and protecting a host of other precious people--despite what Sasuke and the rest of his world have done to him. Allen cares about the Akuma, and the Noah, and essentially all humankind in this war (he's been there before, after all, lost a loved one and suffered the trauma and guilt of turning them into an Akuma), and despite all the shit he's been through he keeps fighting for Mana and all the rest. Maybe it's because I'm an actress, and motivation is really important in connecting to a story for me. But Kurosaki Ichigo's motivations just don't do it for me like these other two manga do. ^^; I'm babbling, and probably going over the LJ postlimit because I think too much, but...
*loves on precious adorable favorite new fandom*
(*loves on you too, of course*)
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d_t 02.04.08
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Heehee, we can fangirl together! *is also supposed to be doing work, but...* And awww, essays :/
Seriously, you are too awesome. <3 Thank you for directing me to those comms! *beams*
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dgrayman and dgray_man, and do you mean the comm with the Kanda/Allen fanart is one of the two you listed? Or another comm? ... *checks again* Oh, it's dgray_man that's the D.Gray-man version of chuunin then--for some reason the background took forever to show up. XD
*also notes down fics* :D It makes me so happy! First off, less badfic to plow through. :P And ohhh, you should post the stats report. Since this is a great series, it's automatically relevant. <3
LOL I happen to be skimming through some of the anime (non-filler!) episodes right now, and I'm at the "Ghost of Mateel" arc, where Kanda's hair has fallen out. And I remember in the manga--he's fighting against Skin Boric (Bolic?) and his shirt is--burned off, isn't it? I was snickering as I was reading, soo much fanservice.Not that I'm complaining XP And Chomesuke/Lavi ftw!
Wow, I have to confess I was terribly unobservant and didn't pick up on the significance of the hair going from long --> short with regard to feminine/masculine stereotypes--I simply thought, "Hey, it'll be easier for her to fight without her hair in the way!" Speaking of which--Kanda's hair is too long, and how does Lavi fight with that scarf of his whipping around? You'd think he'd be strangled or something by accident. :/ (Totally off-topic, but I really cannot wait to see how the past!Lavi and present!Lavi's interactions are animated...)
where in the WORLD did the ninja cats and Granny Cat come from? I mean, what? o_O
Ohhh you are so much more articulate than me at explaining things! I wish I'd discovered Naruto earlier and gotten to experience some of Part I as it happened *wistful*--I have the feeling that I've come into the Naruto fandom at a point when a lot of people are like wtf Kishimoto and just wondering what's going on, and Part I~~that's one thing I'll always admire Kishi for, even though I have no idea what he's going off on now. The characterization, the characterization is so beautiful ;_; And I feel like Naruto and Allen are very similar, in the sense that they have such huge hearts for almost everyone. *loves on them* D.Gray-man really reminds me of Part I!Naruto and Fullmetal Alchemist, which are probably the mangas (besides D.Gray-man) I adore most. (I think the only reason I don't feel I'm so rabidly in love with FMA is because of the slow manga updates, but the characters, the characters in FMA as well! *_*)
I started to read Bleach before, but I just couldn't get into it. What are Ichigo's motivations exactly? I think I got as far as umm, the shell thing starts flirting with Ichigo's classmates? I have a general idea of the storyline, and maybe I should go back and start again, but it just didn't really click with me.
*love love love for D.Gray-man* *and love for you too--thank you for all the links <3, and just getting to read your commentary is awesome :DDDDD*
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kohikari 02.07.08
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Tell me, what do you think of the requisite ambiguous shounen manga pairings?
LOL I agree with you, pretty much. Lavi may like Lenalee, but not as much as Lenalee likes Allen (that's too obvious to me, at least :P). And XP, Road/Allen--that part when she jumped on him, that was just made of the win--so hilarious. >_>
it's just that she suffers the Shounen Manga Syndrome--it's aimed toward boys, the strongest/most well-developed characters tend to be male, and there must be a token girlfriend/damsel-in-distress/etc. character to fill a place
:D Good point there. I dunno--I definitely recognize Lenalee's a very strong character, like when she fought the Akuma over the sea, but then there's the part in the Ark where Noah's trapped her and Chaoji in the cubes, and she keeps saying, "Allen-kun!" over and over again, and... :/ It's unfortunate that there must be the token girlfriend like this, I think I'd like Lenalee lots and lots more if the Shounen Manga Syndrome wasn't so prevalent and I hadn't seen it so many times before. *sighs*
Jeryy? Seriously? I saw it spelled as Jerry all the time. Haha, the romanizations are absolutely nutty. XP
*snort* Naruto is really, really strange lately. I'm hoping that Kishi will stop his mushroom habit soon and clear things up (oh why did I discover Naruto so late, after Part I ended? ;_; Part I was just awesome). But yep, there's so much potential in D.Gray-man as it is now (still wants to know more about Lavi's past, and Kanda, and Mana Walker, and Allen's Crown Clown, and asdfjkl;asdfjkl; toooooo much)! Don't apologize, you aren't rambling at all! You make more sense than I ever would, and why shouldn't we squee over D.Gray-man? :D--there's so much that could happen, and I really hope it keeps going as well as it has. :D
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kohikari 02.04.08
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A while back I made a note of the most relevant/efficient/promptly updated D.Gray fancomms; apart from Exorcists Order, which is for news and discussion, there's ummm (crap, I don't have my bookmarks with me because my laptop fried over the weekend and this is a more different one) I think dgrayman and d_grayman (or was it dgray_man? Or d_gray_man...oh well, just try permutations of that, and the comm with the bad KandaxAllen fanart for a bg is sort of this fandom's equivalent of Chuunin. Fanart, fanfic, fsts, icons, rpgs, blogcrews, discussions, etc. Also, I think there's a dgrayicons comm or something? the Chuunin-esque people should have links to that...)
Also, the archive for D.Gray on ff.n is sooo adorable. Like, there are actual good writers, and some cutely bad writers, and some newbie fantards, and it's so cute~ *hugs tiny fandom* I've done a statistics report for it, but I'm not sure if it's large enough to be relevant enough to post... (KandaAllen=v.popular, and some random Lenalee pairings, and then you throw Lavi in the mix and some fans break out the cracky threesomes...oh, fandom, you're so special~ ♥ There's pretty decent gen, too! Try Mana and Cross by um whatever her name is, and Bookman by Dhampir[insert two-digit number here].)
I like how Lenalee keeps fighting to protect her precious people, even when she's stripped of her weapon and strength. She's got a very strong spirit, especially considering that she was formerly suicidal...such drive is admirable, coming from a place like that. (On a more superficial note, I like how she lost her hair--the stereotype across genres and across cultures tends to be that "super-feminine" girls have long pretty hair and "super-masculine" girls have short short hair; Lenalee went from one end of the spectrum to the other, and retains her mix of femininity and fiery spirit. Also, for someone active like a fighter, short hair is OVER 9000 times more practical. *thinks too much*)
Hoshino-sensei's on the goooood crack. Like the stuff Kishimoto-sensei used to be on, before he went off the deep end and the series jumped the kisame and random ninja catgirls started happening
I think D.Gray-man is one of the most underappreciated shounen manga right now, in a market that's obsessing over Naruto and Bleach and One Piece and Yu-Gi-Oh! and all the rest. I mean, not that those series don't have their own merit--certified Narutard speaking here, as well as a Bleach fan and former (recovered) closet YGO rabidfan--but there's just something about D.Gray-man that seems like it's missing in a lot of other, more popular manga. Like what the main character cares about. Naruto cares about Sasuke, and bringing him home, and protecting a host of other precious people--despite what Sasuke and the rest of his world have done to him. Allen cares about the Akuma, and the Noah, and essentially all humankind in this war (he's been there before, after all, lost a loved one and suffered the trauma and guilt of turning them into an Akuma), and despite all the shit he's been through he keeps fighting for Mana and all the rest. Maybe it's because I'm an actress, and motivation is really important in connecting to a story for me. But Kurosaki Ichigo's motivations just don't do it for me like these other two manga do. ^^; I'm babbling, and probably going over the LJ postlimit because I think too much, but...
*loves on precious adorable favorite new fandom*
(*loves on you too, of course*)
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d_t 02.04.08
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dgrayman and dgray_man, and do you mean the comm with the Kanda/Allen fanart is one of the two you listed? Or another comm? ... *checks again* Oh, it's dgray_man that's the D.Gray-man version of chuunin then--for some reason the background took forever to show up. XD*also notes down fics* :D It makes me so happy! First off, less badfic to plow through. :P And ohhh, you should post the stats report. Since this is a great series, it's automatically relevant. <3
LOL I happen to be skimming through some of the anime (non-filler!) episodes right now, and I'm at the "Ghost of Mateel" arc, where Kanda's hair has fallen out. And I remember in the manga--he's fighting against Skin Boric (Bolic?) and his shirt is--burned off, isn't it? I was snickering as I was reading, soo much fanservice.
Wow, I have to confess I was terribly unobservant and didn't pick up on the significance of the hair going from long --> short with regard to feminine/masculine stereotypes--I simply thought, "Hey, it'll be easier for her to fight without her hair in the way!" Speaking of which--Kanda's hair is too long, and how does Lavi fight with that scarf of his whipping around? You'd think he'd be strangled or something by accident. :/ (Totally off-topic, but I really cannot wait to see how the past!Lavi and present!Lavi's interactions are animated...)
Ohhh you are so much more articulate than me at explaining things! I wish I'd discovered Naruto earlier and gotten to experience some of Part I as it happened *wistful*--I have the feeling that I've come into the Naruto fandom at a point when a lot of people are like wtf Kishimoto and just wondering what's going on, and Part I~~that's one thing I'll always admire Kishi for, even though I have no idea what he's going off on now. The characterization, the characterization is so beautiful ;_; And I feel like Naruto and Allen are very similar, in the sense that they have such huge hearts for almost everyone. *loves on them* D.Gray-man really reminds me of Part I!Naruto and Fullmetal Alchemist, which are probably the mangas (besides D.Gray-man) I adore most. (I think the only reason I don't feel I'm so rabidly in love with FMA is because of the slow manga updates, but the characters, the characters in FMA as well! *_*)
I started to read Bleach before, but I just couldn't get into it. What are Ichigo's motivations exactly? I think I got as far as umm, the shell thing starts flirting with Ichigo's classmates? I have a general idea of the storyline, and maybe I should go back and start again, but it just didn't really click with me.
*love love love for D.Gray-man* *and love for you too--thank you for all the links <3, and just getting to read your commentary is awesome :DDDDD*
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kohikari 02.07.08
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(Drafted Tuesday/Wednesday, typed Wednesday, posted Thursday. Ack. So slooow.)
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(Sorry it took so long to reply--Tuesdays and Thursdays I have night school and don't get home until 10. -_-;; )
^^
It's nice to know that even as you cross fandoms, fantards never change. There's hardcore yaoi and het fans, there's yuri fans and crack!pairing fans, there's the odd gen fan who eventually gains their own following (I'd like to note that Bookman was inspired by Mana and Cross), there's the drabblers and the epic!ficcers and the emo poets. It's sort of comforting.
*puts D.Gray Report on to-do list; it might get done this weekend, or the next, but it should end up being completed by February vacation, I think*
I'm a little upset about how they changed Road's actions--it's so much moreromantic dramatic and visceral if she stabs his eye out herself with a single candle, while randomly sitting in his lap (I love you Road~ ♥), than if she gets up, walks away, and flings a bunch of projectiles at him, one of which so conveniently happens to hit his left eye. Am I being a manga elitist/purist, or...?
You're not unobservant--I just think too much. I came up with the whole hair theory right as I was typing that, actually. ^^; When it was happening I just blinked and started panicking (in tandem with Lenalee, it turns out) about Anita-san's hair ornaments. I wonder if Lenalee still has that one?...
*dies laughing at the thought of Lavi or Kanda being defeated by their own clothing/hair* I keep expecting a Noah to just grab Kanda by the ponytail (such an inviting target, really, and a convenient handle) and send him flying or something.
(I actually didn't like Lavi that much until the whole Road-mindfuck arc where we learned about his past/true self/etc. And then I was like, ♥~)
It's like catgirls gone horribly horribly wrong. Fangirls like that just aren't meant to live that long...
...Actually, on that note, I'm a little surprised Hoshino-sensei hasn't parodied the catgirl trope yet. I mean, she's hit up almost all of the other ones--the tragic pasts, the mysterious figures, the token damsels-in-distress, the crazy/oversexualized archenemies, the cartoonish supervillains, the pretty boys, the comic relief, the badly portrayed historical time periods, the vampfic...the list goes on. She's gotten slammed so much for "crossovers" or maliciously using material from other manga for her own gain, but all of that's ridiculous. This manga is what it is--a shounen-marketed story, an action/adventure, a gothic/horror, and a parody. Because that's what my first impression of D.Gray-man was--a combination of Fullmetal Alchemist and The Nightmare Before Christmas thrown in a blender with all the typical shounen manga cliches and a healthy helping of crack. And it still manages to be a heartfelt, serious story. I have to say I'm a little impressed.
...Crap, I went off on a tangent again. *headdesk* See, this is why it takes me an hour to respond to this thread--I keep getting distracted by my own juvenile philosophical meanderings.
And I get overly verbose, that too.
XDDD "WTF Kishimoto" is actually the most concise accurate description I've heard thus far of the fandom's reaction to the Timeskip. Especially the last forty or so chapters, if not further.
;.; You're right, there's nothing more wonderful than finding engaging, memorable characters, the kind that sort of leave a mark on you even as you pass through being a fan. Hmm. You're right, Naruto and Allen do have similarly wide-open hearts. Makes me wonder if that's what attracts us (or maybe just me) to that type of character?
Ummm...I had a list somewhere around here about what I wanted to say in this thing before I break the LJ-limit and have to continue in another post (or worse, go to bed XD)...ah! Here it is.
[[Officially Over teh LJ Post Limit! The servers can't handle me. :D Cutting...]]
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kohikari 02.07.08
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(Sorry it took so long to reply--Tuesdays and Thursdays I have night school and don't get home until 10. -_-;; )
^^
It's nice to know that even as you cross fandoms, fantards never change. There's hardcore yaoi and het fans, there's yuri fans and crack!pairing fans, there's the odd gen fan who eventually gains their own following (I'd like to note that Bookman was inspired by Mana and Cross), there's the drabblers and the epic!ficcers and the emo poets. It's sort of comforting.
*puts D.Gray Report on to-do list; it might get done this weekend, or the next, but it should end up being completed by February vacation, I think*
I'm a little upset about how they changed Road's actions--it's so much more
You're not unobservant--I just think too much. I came up with the whole hair theory right as I was typing that, actually. ^^; When it was happening I just blinked and started panicking (in tandem with Lenalee, it turns out) about Anita-san's hair ornaments. I wonder if Lenalee still has that one?...
*dies laughing at the thought of Lavi or Kanda being defeated by their own clothing/hair* I keep expecting a Noah to just grab Kanda by the ponytail (such an inviting target, really, and a convenient handle) and send him flying or something.
(I actually didn't like Lavi that much until the whole Road-mindfuck arc where we learned about his past/true self/etc. And then I was like, ♥~)
...Actually, on that note, I'm a little surprised Hoshino-sensei hasn't parodied the catgirl trope yet. I mean, she's hit up almost all of the other ones--the tragic pasts, the mysterious figures, the token damsels-in-distress, the crazy/oversexualized archenemies, the cartoonish supervillains, the pretty boys, the comic relief, the badly portrayed historical time periods, the vampfic...the list goes on. She's gotten slammed so much for "crossovers" or maliciously using material from other manga for her own gain, but all of that's ridiculous. This manga is what it is--a shounen-marketed story, an action/adventure, a gothic/horror, and a parody. Because that's what my first impression of D.Gray-man was--a combination of Fullmetal Alchemist and The Nightmare Before Christmas thrown in a blender with all the typical shounen manga cliches and a healthy helping of crack. And it still manages to be a heartfelt, serious story. I have to say I'm a little impressed.
...Crap, I went off on a tangent again. *headdesk* See, this is why it takes me an hour to respond to this thread--I keep getting distracted by my own juvenile philosophical meanderings.
And I get overly verbose, that too.
XDDD "WTF Kishimoto" is actually the most concise accurate description I've heard thus far of the fandom's reaction to the Timeskip. Especially the last forty or so chapters, if not further.
;.; You're right, there's nothing more wonderful than finding engaging, memorable characters, the kind that sort of leave a mark on you even as you pass through being a fan. Hmm. You're right, Naruto and Allen do have similarly wide-open hearts. Makes me wonder if that's what attracts us (or maybe just me) to that type of character?
Ummm...I had a list somewhere around here about what I wanted to say in this thing before I break the LJ-limit and have to continue in another post (or worse, go to bed XD)...ah! Here it is.
[[Officially Over teh LJ Post Limit! The servers can't handle me. :D Cutting...]]
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kohikari 02.07.08
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[[Second part! Woo.]]
I'm sincerely hoping Tyki gets his personality back, because the manga wouldn't be the same without him. It'd be a tragedy along the lines of Kabutorochi and the Itachicaust (1.24.08 nevar forget). No, Hoshino-sensei! Don't follow Kishimoto-sensei down the Shroom Path of Questionable Return...!!
(In chapter 145, I all panicked for a moment because I thought Bak and Reever were dead. Then I used thedeniallogic!hammer and decided they can't be dead, Reever's an important Komui sidekick and Bak still needs to exist for occasional side-character love-triangle stuffs with Fou. And I don't think Fou can leave the base she guards, so.)
*talks too much* And then, and then, at band camp...!! *shot*
*'tis only a flesh wound* Hey, hey, if D.Gray is FMA, and Allen is Ed and Mana is the mother (the Fourteenth is clearly Sloth...in the anime, I haven't read the manga) and Timcanpy is Al (what, they're both sentient metal things in a steampunky era...) and Cross is Ed's dad (again, in the FMA anime), and Lenalee is Winry, and Komui is Auntie Pinako...umm...actually no, Komui would be Roy (that's who he reminded me of at first) unless Bak was Roy and Fou was Hawkeye...and Skinn is Gluttony (sorry, Skinn) and Lulubell is Lust (unless Road would be Lust?) annnd would Jasdebi be Envy and Wrath? Ack. Help me out here? Would Tyki be Envy, and Jasdebi just be Wrath on their own? (Again, I only watched the anime because I'm lazy like that.) Um. Shit, who would the Millennium Earl be. (Miranda is clearly Scieszka. ...Did I spell that right?) Um. Who would Lavi and Kanda be, we need the rest of the Fab Four.
...Aaand I'm off on a tangent again.
I also love the way the plot has turned recently--all internal problems, with the antagonists being higher-ups in the Black Order/Black Church/Black Religious Organization/etc. A problem you can't solve by blowing shit up. It's so...mmm, tense situations and subtlety and intrigue get me all tingly. Also, it realistically portrays the natural consequences of Allen's altruism--his familiarity with the Noahs, his kindness towards the injured Tyki, and just plain bad luck on them finding out about the Fourteenth before even he did. I wonder what will happen when they find out he's actually the perfect sheep for their Order--his whole life's mission bent on destroying Akuma and defeating the Millennium Earl, and they go and lock him up. Dumbasses.
Ack, I'm ranting at you because I haven't found anyone else to fangirl with about this...I feel so guilty for spamming you...
...But not guilty enough to shut up yet, I still have five minutes before I need to GTFO and to bed. *bricked*
Hm. "Wouldn't it be funny if Timcanpy turned out to be Mana/the Fourteenth all along?" Where in the seven hells did that question come from? *scratches head* ...It would be funny, though...
Do you think Allen sees regular ghosts with that eye of his, as well as the trapped souls within Akuma? (Presuming of course that "ghosts" exist in this world.)
And here's a little bullet point of me geeking over how cool it is how everything is made of random hexagons (a vague reference to atomic theory?) and/or puzzle pieces. I'm wondering if the puzzlebox-theme will turn out to be some part of the plot, or if Hoshino-sensei just thought it would be a clever motif for the tankoubon covers and the sky falling.
Also, like hell they dressed like that in the 1890s. The miniskirt alone wasn't invented until the 1960s...
[[Moar limitbreak? I feel so hardcore...]]
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kohikari 02.07.08
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[[Final cut! *attempts enthusiasm* *fails* *goes to bed instead*]]
Bleach is actually pretty cool. The shell thing (you're talking about the Pez-dispenser!soul Rukia got from Hat-and-Clog's, yes?) is sentient and eventually becomes a sidekick/mascot. As soon as Ichigo adjusts to his powers, something happens and he has to set off on this quest to "save Rukia" (who doesn't really want to be Rescued), accompanied by random classmates with magical powers. Before they leave, they have to train; the training arc is full of drama and holds lots of plotty stuff for later on. Also, no one dies in Bleach. Like, someone will have just blown Ichigo up or something, or stabbed him in what looks like the heart/lungs, and he'll keep on going like the Energizer Bunny from hell. It's worse than in other anime--it's like, for some reason, Kubo Tite likes his characters too much to ever kill them or something. So Ichigo and Co. head off to Save Rukia, and become illegal immigrants with the help of a talking cat (I love Yoruichi), and fight their way through Soul Society while the shinigami higher-ups are busy panicking. There's this whole conspiracy, and lots of suspense when it looks like some serious shit is about to happen to Rukia, but after a couple cliched shounen-manga powerups they come to the rescue and have to fight their way out. And then the whole conspiracy is revealed, and random shinigami get character depth, and more shit happens and then they go home. And then in the anime there is a Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Filler Arc--if you ever get into Bleach, you'll want to skip that. And then more fun plotty stuff happens. It's pretty good--just not quite on the level of Naruto and D.Gray-man.why do I keep typing D.Gay-man
*phew* I'm done. Good night~
That enough commentary for ya? ;3
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d_t 02.10.08
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I'm sincerely hoping Tyki gets his personality back, because the manga wouldn't be the same without him. It'd be a tragedy along the lines of Kabutorochi and the Itachicaust (1.24.08 nevar forget). No, Hoshino-sensei! Don't follow Kishimoto-sensei down the Shroom Path of Questionable Return...!!
(In chapter 145, I all panicked for a moment because I thought Bak and Reever were dead. Then I used the
*talks too much* And then, and then, at band camp...!! *shot*
*'tis only a flesh wound* Hey, hey, if D.Gray is FMA, and Allen is Ed and Mana is the mother (the Fourteenth is clearly Sloth...in the anime, I haven't read the manga) and Timcanpy is Al (what, they're both sentient metal things in a steampunky era...) and Cross is Ed's dad (again, in the FMA anime), and Lenalee is Winry, and Komui is Auntie Pinako...umm...actually no, Komui would be Roy (that's who he reminded me of at first) unless Bak was Roy and Fou was Hawkeye...and Skinn is Gluttony (sorry, Skinn) and Lulubell is Lust (unless Road would be Lust?) annnd would Jasdebi be Envy and Wrath? Ack. Help me out here? Would Tyki be Envy, and Jasdebi just be Wrath on their own? (Again, I only watched the anime because I'm lazy like that.) Um. Shit, who would the Millennium Earl be. (Miranda is clearly Scieszka. ...Did I spell that right?) Um. Who would Lavi and Kanda be, we need the rest of the Fab Four.
...Aaand I'm off on a tangent again.
I also love the way the plot has turned recently--all internal problems, with the antagonists being higher-ups in the Black Order/Black Church/Black Religious Organization/etc. A problem you can't solve by blowing shit up. It's so...mmm, tense situations and subtlety and intrigue get me all tingly. Also, it realistically portrays the natural consequences of Allen's altruism--his familiarity with the Noahs, his kindness towards the injured Tyki, and just plain bad luck on them finding out about the Fourteenth before even he did. I wonder what will happen when they find out he's actually the perfect sheep for their Order--his whole life's mission bent on destroying Akuma and defeating the Millennium Earl, and they go and lock him up. Dumbasses.
Ack, I'm ranting at you because I haven't found anyone else to fangirl with about this...I feel so guilty for spamming you...
...But not guilty enough to shut up yet, I still have five minutes before I need to GTFO and to bed. *bricked*
Hm. "Wouldn't it be funny if Timcanpy turned out to be Mana/the Fourteenth all along?" Where in the seven hells did that question come from? *scratches head* ...It would be funny, though...
Do you think Allen sees regular ghosts with that eye of his, as well as the trapped souls within Akuma? (Presuming of course that "ghosts" exist in this world.)
And here's a little bullet point of me geeking over how cool it is how everything is made of random hexagons (a vague reference to atomic theory?) and/or puzzle pieces. I'm wondering if the puzzlebox-theme will turn out to be some part of the plot, or if Hoshino-sensei just thought it would be a clever motif for the tankoubon covers and the sky falling.
Also, like hell they dressed like that in the 1890s. The miniskirt alone wasn't invented until the 1960s...
[[Moar limitbreak? I feel so hardcore...]]
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[[Final cut! *attempts enthusiasm* *fails* *goes to bed instead*]]
Bleach is actually pretty cool. The shell thing (you're talking about the Pez-dispenser!soul Rukia got from Hat-and-Clog's, yes?) is sentient and eventually becomes a sidekick/mascot. As soon as Ichigo adjusts to his powers, something happens and he has to set off on this quest to "save Rukia" (who doesn't really want to be Rescued), accompanied by random classmates with magical powers. Before they leave, they have to train; the training arc is full of drama and holds lots of plotty stuff for later on. Also, no one dies in Bleach. Like, someone will have just blown Ichigo up or something, or stabbed him in what looks like the heart/lungs, and he'll keep on going like the Energizer Bunny from hell. It's worse than in other anime--it's like, for some reason, Kubo Tite likes his characters too much to ever kill them or something. So Ichigo and Co. head off to Save Rukia, and become illegal immigrants with the help of a talking cat (I love Yoruichi), and fight their way through Soul Society while the shinigami higher-ups are busy panicking. There's this whole conspiracy, and lots of suspense when it looks like some serious shit is about to happen to Rukia, but after a couple cliched shounen-manga powerups they come to the rescue and have to fight their way out. And then the whole conspiracy is revealed, and random shinigami get character depth, and more shit happens and then they go home. And then in the anime there is a Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Filler Arc--if you ever get into Bleach, you'll want to skip that. And then more fun plotty stuff happens. It's pretty good--just not quite on the level of Naruto and D.Gray-man.
*phew* I'm done. Good night~
d_t 02.10.08
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Wow. XD I think I'm going to have to take some time to digest everything you said before I can make a good attempt at replying. :D
LOL we shall carry on the fangirling :P
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- kohikari 02.10.08
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-THE FANGIRLING SHALL NEVER DIE
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d_t 02.13.08
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Yay! Let us continue merrily on this D.Gray-man fangirling road. :D
(LOL it’s sort of amusing how we have to draft out our responses because there’s so much to talk about. :P)
Whee, D.Gray-man report! I look forward to it. :DDD
Oh, I didn’t see that part in the anime—but they changed it to that? Road’s action of stabbing him in the eye is so much more hardcore and significant emotions-wise than if she was randomly directing candles at him and one hit him in the eye by chance (of course it was by chance…). It’s a little irritating that the animators feel the need to change those kinds of things because they’re “too violent” or stuff like that. It’s a shounen manga, what would you think they’d have? No, you’re not being an elitist/purist (at least I think so), it’d be so much more dramatic if she’d oh-so-calmly stabbed him.
I think Lenalee returned Anita-san’s hair ornaments to her before they left the ship, didn’t they? My memory is spotty, though, so I’m not sure.
I still await the moment in which Kanda’s turned into a propeller blade. Around and around he goes… I suspect that there might be (gasp!) sentimental value behind his hair, because pragmatically it doesn’t make sense. Wait—well, a lot of uniform/hair/etc. choices don’t make sense. So that doesn’t affect anything. XP
Really? I liked Lavi from the beginning—he seemed so amusingly nonchalant and the like. And then Road’s mind-fuck arc came along and young!Lavi was so adorable~ :D Speaking of which, who is your favorite character? (and favorite pairing? If you have one, that is XD)
… Wow. I think it must say something about Hoshino’s ability to make good stuff out of those tropes that I hadn’t actually noticed the parodying of said tropes until you just pointed it out. XD Cartoonish supervillains--Oh, Earl, you are such a strange entity. He makes me think of a bloated, disfigured rabbit for some reason. XP
You saw the latest Naruto chapters? Kishimoto continues merrily along the garden path to even more wtf. :P
Naruto and Allen—they’re just so willing to help and love others, even those who aren’t their friends (Naruto and the villagers who are a little wary of him, Allen and the Akuma)—unless those people have hurt them and their friends (“precious” is the important word!). Then—omg, watch out! The mother lion pounces with claws extended! (… don’t ask where that metaphor came from. I have no idea. XD) But anyway, I suppose that could be why—there’s a wonderful aspect of magnanimity to their personalities.
Oh, I hope Tyki gets his personality back too. He was such an interesting villain—but now that he’s been turned into Mindless Fighting Strange-Looking Minion, it takes so much out of the oomph of the manga. It’s interesting and complex villains that make up so much of the awesomeness of the conflict.
I don’t think Bak and Reever are dead
*offers bandages*
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- (I actually do this kind of thing a lot--I'm such an OCD perfectionist I won't post anything without at least two edits...)
- They also changed the "FUCK YOU EXORCISTS!" to "I'VE GOT YOUR INNOCENCE!". I mean, it's not as bad as Viz's edit to "THANK YOU EXORCISTS!", but...
- In the manga, Lenalee was fighting with the hairpieces in, and when everything was burning up she reached out to grab it because it was "Anita-san's precious hair ornaments"; when Chomesuke returned her to the boat and the crystal reverted, she was clutching an ornament in her hand. Dunno where the other went. Also, as the exorcists were lifting off and Miranda canceled her invocation, Anita was wearing one of the ornaments--it fell to the deck floor as she disintegrated from the Akuma virus. I don't know if one is melted and at the bottom of the sea and the other in the shipwreck, or one in the shipwreck and one with Lenalee, or what.
- Hee, propeller-blade!Kanda. x3
- My favorite character is Allen. He's just so--gah, I just want to hug him or something. He cares for his enemies, he lives and fights for the monsters created by his worst enemy, he's a one-man eating machine, he's not loud or brash or annoying like your typical shounen hero (let's hear it for variety), he cheats like a pro at poker, and he was trained as a clown. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. I just love the character. ^^; Second place is Kanda tied with Road; I'm naturally predisposed to liking the bitchy trigger-happy characters, so Kanda's a big fat duh, but Road is there because she is made of AWESOME (even if I did think she was a transvestite at first) and and and I love her so much. I don't really know after that; I really like all the characters, Tyki and Cross and the Earl and Miranda and Lavi and Lenalee and Chomesuke and Komui...
- As for pairings...well. >////<;; I knew what kind of character Bitchyface was from his first panel in volume 1, and by the end of said volume had that RYFG-favorite pairing all pinned down. Then I remembered the redhead I had seen in several D.Gray icons and decided that of course the three popular pretty boys, RedheadxBitchyfacexAllen, would be the favorite for crack OT3. As for my own preferences in pairing, it takes a lot to actually make me believe there's a connection and then more to make me care, so...well, I wasn't expecting it, but something hit me upside the head with a ton of bricks and now I'm shipping RoadxAllen and LavixLenalee. Though I recognize AllenxLenalee as pretty damn canon, and LaviKandaAllen will always be the perfect crack threesome. And I have fun reading all the KandaAllen and LaviAllen and LaviKanda fics just to see all the interpretations of the characters and the dynamics (and also because I am easily distracted from schoolwork).
- Why is TykixLavi so popular? I don't get it. They fought once, and it was because Lavi thought Tyki had killed Allen, and then Mr. Mikk pulls the hostage bit with Lenalee, and...and Tyki paid the most attention to Allen anyway, so the popularity of the "Lucky" pairing sort of weirds me out. Just like KandaLenalee, except to a greater extent. (Because KandaLenalee is actually plausible...)
-Grandmother Cat or whatever her name was was an old crazy cat lady with a cat-ear headband on and a long-suffering niece/granddaughter/assistant. It's Catgirls: The Golden Years, I tell you!
- They also changed the "FUCK YOU EXORCISTS!" to "I'VE GOT YOUR INNOCENCE!". I mean, it's not as bad as Viz's edit to "THANK YOU EXORCISTS!", but...
- In the manga, Lenalee was fighting with the hairpieces in, and when everything was burning up she reached out to grab it because it was "Anita-san's precious hair ornaments"; when Chomesuke returned her to the boat and the crystal reverted, she was clutching an ornament in her hand. Dunno where the other went. Also, as the exorcists were lifting off and Miranda canceled her invocation, Anita was wearing one of the ornaments--it fell to the deck floor as she disintegrated from the Akuma virus. I don't know if one is melted and at the bottom of the sea and the other in the shipwreck, or one in the shipwreck and one with Lenalee, or what.
- Hee, propeller-blade!Kanda. x3
- My favorite character is Allen. He's just so--gah, I just want to hug him or something. He cares for his enemies, he lives and fights for the monsters created by his worst enemy, he's a one-man eating machine, he's not loud or brash or annoying like your typical shounen hero (let's hear it for variety), he cheats like a pro at poker, and he was trained as a clown. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. I just love the character. ^^; Second place is Kanda tied with Road; I'm naturally predisposed to liking the bitchy trigger-happy characters, so Kanda's a big fat duh, but Road is there because she is made of AWESOME (even if I did think she was a transvestite at first) and and and I love her so much. I don't really know after that; I really like all the characters, Tyki and Cross and the Earl and Miranda and Lavi and Lenalee and Chomesuke and Komui...
- As for pairings...well. >////<;; I knew what kind of character Bitchyface was from his first panel in volume 1, and by the end of said volume had that RYFG-favorite pairing all pinned down. Then I remembered the redhead I had seen in several D.Gray icons and decided that of course the three popular pretty boys, RedheadxBitchyfacexAllen, would be the favorite for crack OT3. As for my own preferences in pairing, it takes a lot to actually make me believe there's a connection and then more to make me care, so...well, I wasn't expecting it, but something hit me upside the head with a ton of bricks and now I'm shipping RoadxAllen and LavixLenalee. Though I recognize AllenxLenalee as pretty damn canon, and LaviKandaAllen will always be the perfect crack threesome. And I have fun reading all the KandaAllen and LaviAllen and LaviKanda fics just to see all the interpretations of the characters and the dynamics (and also because I am easily distracted from schoolwork).
- Why is TykixLavi so popular? I don't get it. They fought once, and it was because Lavi thought Tyki had killed Allen, and then Mr. Mikk pulls the hostage bit with Lenalee, and...and Tyki paid the most attention to Allen anyway, so the popularity of the "Lucky" pairing sort of weirds me out. Just like KandaLenalee, except to a greater extent. (Because KandaLenalee is actually plausible...)
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- - *headdesks* That revision completely changes the meaning of what was shouted. :/
- - With Anita's hair ornaments: I think she lost one while fighting the Akuma, and the one she had in her hand, like you said, was the other one when she came back to the ship. Then she put it in Anita's hair, as told to--so I think both are in the water. Somewhere. :( So I guess Lenalee doesn't have the hair ornaments anymore.
- - he cheats like a pro at poker
- - Oh god, that part made me laugh when I was reading the manga. XD Just--and it's just so, so hilarious. XD Allen is adorable, he really is. His motivation to fight for both humans and the Akuma~ ♥ :D Kanda cracks me up; it'll be interesting to see what his backstory is like. The tattoo + lotus = ??? And XDDD Road as a transvestite--true, I can definitely see that. :P The characters are just all so, so awesome.
- - Oh, pairings. =_= The requisite RYFG pairing Kanda/Allen. XD Lavi/Lenalee--have you seen the latest manga chapters? I feel like there might be something--or it could just be I'm reading too much into it, and it's Lavi being worried (platonic!) over Lenalee and what she's doing.
- - Tyki/Lavi is called the "Lucky" pairing? *blinks* I didn't know that, hmm. Kanda/Lenalee--they have a such an awww sibling-ish relationship, I can see Allen/Lenalee and Lavi/Lenalee more than it. Although I have read good stuff with that ship.
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- - *gasp* The Mysterious Case of the Missing Hair Ornaments is solved!
- - Allen's "Black" Side is hilarious. It's the only time I can picture him with the creepy Noah!smile, all dark and evil and about to cheat you out of your trousers... With Kanda, canonically we know that the lotus is suspended in water/fluid/whatever, in an hourglass? and there are thirteen petals left at some point in the manga? and with each petal that falls, some of Kanda's life
- - Road I first thought was a sadistic little boy in a dress. And I blinked and then I thought, okay, whatever, because this is Japanese manga and it's nothing I haven't seen before. And then after the whole arc is through and the third tankoubon is drawing to a close, in the author-talk page Hoshino-sensei says Road's female, and I was like ...what? And I had to reread it all again from that more different lens. XP Jasdebi I thought were male, until Lero called them "-tama" which was noted by the translator as somewhat equating "young lady" or something, and I blinked and was confused for a bit and then decided that that explained why their jeans are so...erm...wait a minute, I don't think jeans were invented until the 20th century! *fume* And someone somewhere said zippers weren't invented until later as well, and Allen's latest uniform is practically nothing but... ...What was I talking about? Oh yeah, so then I thought Jasdebi were female, and I still think so because goddammit their combined form was clearly wearing a dress. @_@;;;
- - Eeeee unique/engaging characters~ *totally in love with this canon*
- - Kanda/Allen for me is a little "eh", it's not as blatantly implausible as Harry/Draco but it's still not as deadpan obvious as Naruto/Sasuke... I was shocked originally at the popularity of the Lavi/Kanda ship in Japan; they have practically no onscreen interaction (despite their obvious history, and that Lavi's the only one besides Tiedoll to call him "Yuu") and when they do it's with or about Allen. *squashes moar crack!threesome theories* But recently in the manga, my LaviLena shipping bone has been twinging like a hurricane's a'coming. Admittedly, it could be taken as platonic, buuut... XD Yeah no.
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- - *smacks self* Ah, my memory fails me so badly. :/
- - XD So far the D.Gray-man anime has not had that many flashbacks, thank god, but there probably will be one. Flashbacks seem to be a staple of anime (especially Naruto, @____@).
- - I know that after Kanda fought Skinn another petal fell, so now he has thirteen. And yeah, his tattoo has definitely started to expand. I do wonder who "that person" is--one mention, and then it sort of disappeared. XD
- - Road I first thought was a sadistic little boy in a dress.
- - *snickers* Jasdebi--I thought one of them looked male and the other female (the blond one?)--although I can't remember which was which, precisely. However, the combined form? Totally wearing a dress.BELIEVE IT! So... yeah, the genders are really, really strange.
- - I can see how people might be like squee Kanda/Allen. A lot of people call it a rival!ship, apparently, but to me it isn't. They just happen to be two boys who bicker a lot and have very different views of the world, but bickering doesn't --> rivals (unlike Naruto and Sasuke, for instance). Lavi/Kanda probably comes out of the implied history between them; as you said, they haven't interacted much in the actual manga, although I know that there's more in the fillers (but they're fillers, so *shrugs*). And heehee, there has been a lot of... interesting Lavi/Lenalee interaction in the recent manga. :P
- - Lucky. And Yullen. Owwwww, seriously, these portmanteau 'ship names are just so ://// at times. Hmm, that fic you mentioned does sound interesting. :D Could you perhaps link me to it? :D
- -Ninjacatgirls are there to be all catty and make readers go o_O. They've done a good job of it. =_=
- - XD So far the D.Gray-man anime has not had that many flashbacks, thank god, but there probably will be one. Flashbacks seem to be a staple of anime (especially Naruto, @____@).
- - I know that after Kanda fought Skinn another petal fell, so now he has thirteen. And yeah, his tattoo has definitely started to expand. I do wonder who "that person" is--one mention, and then it sort of disappeared. XD
- - Road I first thought was a sadistic little boy in a dress.
- - *snickers* Jasdebi--I thought one of them looked male and the other female (the blond one?)--although I can't remember which was which, precisely. However, the combined form? Totally wearing a dress.
- - I can see how people might be like squee Kanda/Allen. A lot of people call it a rival!ship, apparently, but to me it isn't. They just happen to be two boys who bicker a lot and have very different views of the world, but bickering doesn't --> rivals (unlike Naruto and Sasuke, for instance). Lavi/Kanda probably comes out of the implied history between them; as you said, they haven't interacted much in the actual manga, although I know that there's more in the fillers (but they're fillers, so *shrugs*). And heehee, there has been a lot of... interesting Lavi/Lenalee interaction in the recent manga. :P
- - Lucky. And Yullen. Owwwww, seriously, these portmanteau 'ship names are just so ://// at times. Hmm, that fic you mentioned does sound interesting. :D Could you perhaps link me to it? :D
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- - The mention disappeared because Kanda disappeared--with no appearances after Mateel until the fight in Edo except in brief interludes in the search for the Rinkaisha. If he was any other character type than bitchy!triggerhappy!prettyboy, I'd've forgotten about him entirely...and yet he's the most popular character in the latest Jump rankings. -_-;; Oh, fangirls: specially retarded the world over.
- - Debitto has shorter dark hair and is the dominant twin (and so might come off as more masculine--as well as the fact that his/her/its name is often romanized as "David"), and Jasdero is the long-blonde with the mouth stitches ("Nihihihihihi!"). I'm going to assume the position that they're transsexual/gender-neutral/hermaphrodite
- - If Kanda had remained in the party after Mateel (lol rpgspeak), he could very well have developed into a UST-y rival!ship. But he didn't. He went off the map and Allen spent the next forever getting in some quality time with Lenalee and Lavi before collecting Krory and heading off to get pwnt by Tyki. And then he was waylaid in the Asian section for a couple weeks or something. And then Edo happened, and the Ark, and the first major climax of the storyline. The two just kind of vaguely piss each other off (and scare Lavi sometimes).
- - I'll see if I can find the link--it's been a while, and I have to go to class now. I'll look for it during lunch~
- - The mention disappeared because Kanda disappeared--with no appearances after Mateel until the fight in Edo except in brief interludes in the search for the Rinkaisha. If he was any other character type than bitchy!triggerhappy!prettyboy, I'd've forgotten about him entirely...and yet he's the most popular character in the latest Jump rankings. -_-;; Oh, fangirls: specially retarded the world over.
- - Debitto has shorter dark hair and is the dominant twin (and so might come off as more masculine--as well as the fact that his/her/its name is often romanized as "David"), and Jasdero is the long-blonde with the mouth stitches ("Nihihihihihi!"). I'm going to assume the position that they're transsexual/gender-neutral/hermaphrodite
- - If Kanda had remained in the party after Mateel (lol rpgspeak), he could very well have developed into a UST-y rival!ship. But he didn't. He went off the map and Allen spent the next forever getting in some quality time with Lenalee and Lavi before collecting Krory and heading off to get pwnt by Tyki. And then he was waylaid in the Asian section for a couple weeks or something. And then Edo happened, and the Ark, and the first major climax of the storyline. The two just kind of vaguely piss each other off (and scare Lavi sometimes).
- - I'll see if I can find the link--it's been a while, and I have to go to class now. I'll look for it during lunch~
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- - Got it!
- - http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3369736/1/T
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- - Oh god. My first exposure to Naruto was the English version, precisely during the Wave Arc, when my friend and I were surfing through channels. Needless to say, I was like, "What's with all these flashbacks? They totally ruin the tension of the show!" And I went on, unaware of how it would later drag me into fandom. :P
- - LOL That always happens with the bitchy!trigger-happy!pretty boy characters, it seems. =_= And maybe it's also because he's featured more in the anime fillers, but probably it's mainly his appearance and "mysterious aura." *snicker*
- - Hermaphrodites work. XD
- - And thanks for the link! ♥ AU :D, it'll be interesting to see the author's spin on things.
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